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    • September 27, 2008 4:25 PM PDT
    • The numbers I gave were based on an average, my page has been getting an overwhelming amount of hits because it is placed in the third or fourth position in several key words. Your assumptions are based on ONE keyword, and because MoxStar is optimized with more than simply one, we are able to double, or triple the traffic from a single keyword.

       

      Conversion ratios have been low, simply because it has been out for less than a week ( on Sat. Sept. 27th ) and there is not much understanding of the product or compensation plan. Just compare it to MonaVie, they did not get mainstream until several months after their official launch. Keep in mind that Jared and I are trying to build an organization that supports the new business owner and the MoxStar.com site had to be launched prior to it's completion. 

       

      The answer to your question is found in the ingredients of MOXXOR. If you do a google.com search for "ingredients in MOXXOR" you will see MoxStar is ranked first. The price is not $84 at all, it's $60 and the amount of concentrate you get per serving is much higher than any other product that you can buy.

       

      The replicated site does not cost anything monthly, there is a fee of $50 a year to have the site and back-office. The $850 Pro Pack gives you the ability to earn more from your team sales, this is not a requirement. I chose to order the Pro Pack and I will be posting pictures tomorrow with a detailed review of the quality.

       

      Feel free to email me guys, daniel@MoxStars.com

    • September 27, 2008 3:31 PM PDT
    • Dan

      I can't believe anyone is doing 50 to 100 searches an hour for MOXXOR. At least not yet. Even if MOXXOR explodes and becomes the next big company, that would still be an absurd number of hits for a nitch company.  And for you to be getting that many hits, they would have to be doing multiples more of that - because your page isnt top ranked for that keyword.

      50 to 100 an hour is absurd.  http://www.mlmrankings.com/moxxor/ is the top ranked page for the phrase MOXXOR on Google.  I've emailed them and asked them if they will report how many hits they are seeing per day for MOXXOR. They would have to be seeing thousands if that were the case.

      If I'm wrong, could you post your server logs, which would show the number of searches and source ( Google, Yahoo, etc )

      I'm also curious about the number of conversions you are seeing. If you were converting even a fraction of 100 an hour, you're set for life.

      Cheers

       

    • September 27, 2008 2:33 PM PDT
    • I am not a distributor for Moxxar. I am half way impressed w/ the my moxxar website.

      A few quick question.
      Dan, so what are your enrollment numbers with 50-100 people visiting an hour? I noticed you didn't really want to answer the question. I guess that is up to you, but the question is a fair one. Care to share. 

      Anyone, so why is this mussel extract better than another green lipped extract I can buy from NZ. A quick google search tells me I can buy 100 of the mussel and 100 caps of grape seed extract for about $20 each. I gather Moxxar is 60 caps for $50.  A 100 count of Moxxar would be about $84. Direct from NZ from Google search would be only $40. Seems like this is 2x as expensive to me.   Am I missing something? or is this just MLM pricing and the cost of the opportunity?  Please don't go into the quality control, etc. All cos. would have that that are exporting. I'd like to have this answered so I could proceed with confidence if I chose to.

      Anyone, does the marketing site cost anything monthly?

       

      Aside from buying $850 + of product, what must one do to earn 15%?

       

      BigD

       

       

       

       

       

       

    • September 22, 2008 11:44 AM PDT
    • Because we are going to grow so quickly, we can't take any chances with people making claims online. The FDA has become a very strict entity because of companies that are careless in their online presence.

      Please feel secure that regardless of the restrictions on the name itself, we are still allowed to market online! As long as no claims are made, you will be okay.

      If you look at my site, it still gets 50-100 visits an hour with people searching for the product and opportunity. 

      The advantages of Team MoxStar are many, but one of the most important ones are the fact that we are going to grow as a community. Which means, I can only manage a certain amount of business owners at one time so if you are willing to take the responsibility of a leader, I will be more than happy to help you grow your business by giving you prospective new members and add them to your downline.

      Please realize that I am not approaching this as an "opportunity", but a real business that just happened to cost me under $1,000! And you should be too, because if it's done any other way, there will be more bumps on the road than with whatever your trying to get out of right now.

      Don't let the rules hold you back as an entrepreneur! We can still grow at a faster rate than the "other" companies and achieve the 2 billion dollars in two years. Another reason why we need strong leadership to help new business owners.

      If you ever considered owning a McDonald's or any other popular franchise for that matter. Consider this, because there are no limitations for growth, territories, or earnings. Not to mention the fact that it beats ANY other price. And don't forget Team MoxStar as an amazing foundation for your business.

      Contact me: daniel@MoxStar.com

      More Info: http://www.MyMoxxor.com/start

       

      Sincerely,

      Dan

    • September 20, 2008 12:17 PM PDT
    • Good post Daniel.

      My only concern is micromanagement.

      The talk about prohibiting the use of the term MOXXOR on the internet is prohibitive.  None of the major companies in the direct sales / network marketing space put that kind of restriction in place.

      With the business experience displayed in the bios, I would think the team would have a better understanding of the positives and negatives of the internet - and react accordingly.  There's no way to lock down all use of a term, and no one would suggest that, unless they had a vested interest in it somehow. Like if you were the guy policing the internet, and you wanted job security.  You'd have plenty of job security, because all you'd have to do all day is go looking for posts and firing off threatening letters.  Net effect *Zero* except to piss off your average distributor and do the opposite of what you want - which is get your name branded into as many minds as possible, in a positive way, by people posting their good experiences and belief in the company.

      They should deal with actual issues that have a possible negative impact. I'm not a distributor (yet) because I'm waiting to see how some of this settles out. 

      The latest word that I have heard is that not only is the use of the product or logo prohibited anywhere on the internet, but even the word MOXXOR. I hope I'm wrong, that would be a incredibily prohibitive policy and the only one benefiting would be the one paid to police it.  

      Out of curiousity Daniel, what kind of signup numbers are you seeing and who is your primary upline in the company?

      Cheers

    • September 20, 2008 11:12 AM PDT
    • Hey guys,

      My name is Daniel Sanchez, I am excited to start from a place of confidence in this business. I am pleased to announce the formation of The MoxStar Team. The whole purpose of this Team is to help you achieve the things you want to achieve, and because I know you have decided to start a business, I can assume you want to achieve something or make a change in your life.

       

      My whole purpose is to be there as a strong foundation for your business. The only way we are going to make that a reality is by working together. My vision is to take every person in this team to Stardom by creating an incredibly strong support system.

      Please realize you are starting a real franchise for under $1,000! This franchise is worth much more than that if you ask me.

       

      The brothers have literally created an unreal brand for you to use to it's fullest potential. 

       

      Join Me? www.MyMoxxor.com/start

       

      Official MoxStar Team Site: www.MoxStar.com

       

      Daniel Sanchez

      Moxstar

    • September 25, 2008 9:35 AM PDT
    • I just joined 2 hours ago.  Wow, what a time to be in this place.  Moxxor is soon to launch it's Business and Opportunity, and with the state of affairs with the economy, I'm glad that we still have the chance to get health and get wealthy at the same time.  I'm excited........to say the least.

      Marc

       

      http://www.mymoxxor.com/livewell

    • September 24, 2008 5:44 AM PDT
    • MOXXOR Poll:

    • September 20, 2008 12:22 PM PDT
    • Are you allowed to post pictures of the product?

    • September 20, 2008 10:40 AM PDT
    • I understand that to it's entirety, and it was directed exclusively to people held under a contractual agreement with the company. It would have been absurd for me to assume that it was not. lol

       

      My experience has been amazing, they are really hands on people and get right down to business when it comes to what they want to accomplish.

       

      The launch was delayed until next week (last time I heard was Friday, Sept. 19th) because of some issues with the site. But you can still get started by going to http://www.MyMoxxor.com/start

      I am also creating an organization that will help everyone who decides to join the MoxStar Team. I am working on a DBA from my current LLC. so we can be official and start this the right way.

      Also working on all the goodies you get when you join the MoxStar Team. I have a whole back end that will make communication extremely easy and secure! So Moxstar.com is the front and once you get started you will gain access to the rest.

       

      I already have my ProPack on the way and I will post pictures of it on the MoxStar.com site once it arrives.

       

      http://www.MyMoxxor.com/start

       

      Daniel Sanchez

      MoxStar

    • September 20, 2008 10:27 AM PDT
    • I'm sorry guys, I read my post over and I mistakenly wrote "word". When I meant to say images. No images of their products, or logos are allowed to be used anywhere in your private websites.

       

      After speaking to John about what is allowed, he did confirm that the use of their images in strictly prohibited.

       

    • September 19, 2008 4:46 PM PDT
    • MoxStar -

      After my last post, I did a Google search. Other than the consumer sites, like Npros, etc, I noticed that your page comes up reasonably well ranked -

      http: // moxtar.com/about-moxxor/

      You have pages that not only include the word MOXXOR in URLs on the site, but also several times on the pages themselves -

      The about MOXXOR page, BUY MOXXOR, enroll in MOXXOR, etc. You have a keyword cloud of links that all include MOXXOR and link to various other pages ( kudos, this is great SEO practice ) but again, are you using the word MOXXOR in a way that you just said John Turner said was prohibited?

      Are these all violations of the 'ANYWHERE' policy you mentioned?

      I guess I just don't get what you meant by your anywhere statement.  I gleaned from one of your pages ( that prominently includes the word MOXXOR all over the place ) that your name is Daniel Sanchez, Moxxor ID # 3188301.:

      About Me

      My name is Daniel, and I am your motivator, your guide, your friend, and business partner. I have been in business all my life because I hate having a job, and I love making things happen. This is going to be a life changing event in many people’s lives, I honestly believe that.

      The purpose of this team is to create a stable foundation for all MOXXOR business owners who have never been in business for themselves, or simply have never succeeded in the business of network marketing. I will be leading the team, as well as other key people whom I consider MoxStars.

      Your link to MyMoxxor.com shows your name.

      I'm hoping that I'm making my point that saying use of the term ANYWHERE is ridiculously restrictive, and in many cased unenforceable  ( though they could certainly terminate distributors, if you are actually using that term in your pages in violation of the contract you signed with the company)

      Cheers

       

       

    • September 19, 2008 4:31 PM PDT
    • [quote user="MoxStar"]

      FYI guys, you are not allowed to have the word MOXXOR or their logos ANYWHERE other than your page. Per John Turner.

      [/quote]

      ANYWHERE is a pretty broad term.

      Does MOXXOR believe they can reasonably track and respond to the kind of marketing that goes on with any new company on the internet?

      For example: MoxStar - you used the word MOXXOR in your post. Is that 'Anywhere'?  Did you just violate John Turner's policy? I realize you didnt attach a link or anything, but there are already sites on the net using the word "MOXXOR" as a subdomain. Things ike MOXXOR . MYSITE . COM attached to blogs and such.

      Keep in mind those rules only apply to distributors - if MOXXOR takes off, there will be plenty of posts on blogs, etc, that include the word MOXXOR. Use of the term - even if its trademarked - is allowed in many scenarios - as long as its not misleading or misrepresents the site or the information to be from the company.  For example consumer protection sites, news articles, etc ... even situations where someone who felt that MOXXOR was not a good proposition could do a blog titled MOXXOR SCAM -  and then post their opinions. Even though MOXXOR is trademarked name, that doesn't prohibit its use in this fashion.  No one would mistake a post of that nature as being 'misleading'. Check out fair use, etc.  So many people ( including business owners ) think that a trademark means they control of all use and utterance of their trademark - that's simply not the case.  A trademark cannot be used in a manner that is confusing to the reader. Here's a great legal analysis:

      The Lanham Act permits a non-owner of a registered trademark to make "fair use" or "nominative use" of a trademark under certain circumstances without obtaining permission from the mark's owner. The fair use and nominative use defenses are to help ensure that trademark owners do not prohibit the use of their marks when they are used for the purpose of description or identification. Fair use or nominative use may be recognized in those instances where a reader of a given work is clearly able to understand that the use of the trademark does not suggest sponsorship or association with the trademark owner's product or services and therefore is not being used in a manner to confuse the reader.

      MOXXOR has every right to choose to tell reps they can't use the term in advertising, or elsewhere, because those distributors are bound by a contractual agreement. However, that's a position most MLM companies have moved away from  ( call it what you will, Direct Sales, Network Marketing, MOXXOR is definitely an MLM ) particularly the legit companies that are here for the long haul. They allow reps to use the name in advertising as long as the advertisement doesn't violate thier terms or endanger the companies compliance with regulatory agencies by doing things like posting income claims, making false health claims ( like MOXXOR CURES CANCER!!!! ) the usual stuff that gets a company in deep with the regulators.

      Either MOXXOR is getting some overzealous advice from people collecting fat checks or with a limited understanding of the internet, or they the don't understand that whether they have a policy or not, they are still going to spend just as much time policing the issue as they would if they allowed a reasonable use of the name - and at least with a reasonable use, they also get additional branding awareness and additional name exposure.

      I definitely like the look of this company. I like the product info I've seen ( someone posted a link to the dev site on another site a while back ) and I like the fact that the owners are not career MLMers.  I think they have a very good shot at success, as long as they dont get sidetracked with bad advice...which is everywhere in this business and usually identified by the people trying to justify their monthly consultant check.

      Cheers

      PS Please post your experience with the launch. The site is not live yet ( 11:25pm on Sept 19 ).

      And are you allowed to post with even your tagline containing a link to your own MOXXOR page? That would be absurdly restrictive.

       

    • September 19, 2008 9:07 AM PDT
    • Indeed, It's going to be the biggest of them all.

      FYI guys, you are not allowed to have the word MOXXOR or their logos ANYWHERE other than your page. Per John Turner.

    • August 9, 2008 3:46 PM PDT
    • What I find interesting about this prelaunch company is the founders' story.

      I dont know of any other company where the founders have already made a personal fortune, outside of the direct sales / network marketing space - with this kind of pitch. Usually its "Our Founders are Successful MLM Gurus BLAH BLAH BLAH" - Noel and Johh Turner build their network of food and distribution companies from scratch, and it had nothing to do with network marketing.

      This is also the first company I've seen where everything, front to back, from the mussel fields in New Zealand to the manufacturing to the headquarters for MOXXOR in California - is all owned by the same company. There's no 'middle man'.

      The company is due to launch this month, and given the vision of the founders ( Noel Turner and John Turner ) and the story behind the product, and the product itself, I think this may be one of the most successful new launches of 2008.

      Cheers

      JT

    • September 20, 2008 10:53 AM PDT
    • Good job breaking it down! You are correct in all the details, there are amazing things to achieve as a distributor and we are being encouraged to achieve more than anyone in this business.

      This has more potential than anything I have been a part of.

       

      Daniel Sanchez

      www.MyMoxxor.com/start

    • August 19, 2008 12:29 PM PDT
    • The latest I've heard is that this company is launching the first week of September.

      My understanding is that the company will use a binary comp plan for up to 15% of sales volume in matching legs, and that there will also be an executive bonus pool.

      The buy in looks to be anywhere from $50 just to participate as a rep up to $950 to participate at the highest level of the executive bonus pool.

      More as info becomes available.

    • September 20, 2008 10:49 AM PDT
    • Absolutely astonished by the response I have received! This company will demolish any other in the category. 

       

      More details:

      www.MyMoxxor.com/start

       

    • September 17, 2008 5:11 PM PDT
    • Latest target date for launch is Friday, September 18th.

      It will be interesting to see what kind of traction this company gets when it launches.

    • September 17, 2008 6:58 AM PDT
    • The latest is that MOXXOR is launching this week.

      The page is not live yet, but check back for more info.

      Cheers

      MOXXOR TEAM

    • September 20, 2008 10:47 AM PDT
    • It's official! 

      www.MyMoxxor.com/Start

       

    • September 15, 2008 4:19 PM PDT
    •  MOXXOR pre-enrollment is now open.  Enrollment is open, prior to launch.  Visit:  http://clients.ninthdegree.com/moxxor  You may have to type this into your address bar if link does not open.   Please contact me directly for detailed information, distributor application, payment method, and questions.  Enroll now and benefit from this pre-launch ground floor opportunity.  Timing is everything.  This opportunity may change you life, and lifestyle.  Contact me at:  moxxorwellness@yahoo.com

        

    • September 5, 2008 10:08 AM PDT
    • The latest from MOXXOR is that the launch has been pushed back to mid september.

      Not unusual for a company launch. I'm assuming they just want to get everything right before going live.

    • August 9, 2008 4:11 AM PDT
    • Welcome to the MOXXOR Discussion Forum

      This forum is for MOXXOR distributors to post and for interested people to ask questions and receive feedback.

      The forum rules are simple.

      Please...

      No profanity.

      No blatant advertisements ( but feel free to include a tagline with your personal URL if you wish )

      Provide thought provoking content and discussions.

      More info on MOXXOR may be found at http://repspace.com/biz/moxxor/